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		<title>By: Andy&#8217;s blog &#187; The iPod rumormill continues, but I no longer care</title>
		<link>http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2006/01/14/drm-and-pragmatism/comment-page-1/#comment-6021</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy&#8217;s blog &#187; The iPod rumormill continues, but I no longer care</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 18:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I don&#8217;t want to download movies by subscription. One of the best rants on why buying your content through a model that isn&#8217;t guaranteed to be permanant comes from Dave Slusher a couple of months ago, and is the main reason I decided to start avoiding the iTunes music store unless absolutely necessary. &#160; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I don&#8217;t want to download movies by subscription. One of the best rants on why buying your content through a model that isn&#8217;t guaranteed to be permanant comes from Dave Slusher a couple of months ago, and is the main reason I decided to start avoiding the iTunes music store unless absolutely necessary. &nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Web 2.0.11562 beta &#187; Blog Archive &#187; DRM wars</title>
		<link>http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2006/01/14/drm-and-pragmatism/comment-page-1/#comment-4741</link>
		<dc:creator>Web 2.0.11562 beta &#187; Blog Archive &#187; DRM wars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2006 01:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The RIAA and MPAA are the poster children for the bury-your-head-in-the-sand mentality. These industry-specific groups have more than enough money to shape the kind of technological advances that would maintain their dominance in the world market. But they choose instead to spend their money on lobbying. Their old business models have become leaky dikes, now they try to plug them by putting an increasing number of legislative &#8220;fingers&#8221; into the holes to stem the inevitable water of progress. Here&#8217;s a great insider&#8217;s look at the issue from a techie who has been involved in implementing DRM and thought about it a lot. One thing I believe - the DRM wars will continue for the foreseeable future. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The RIAA and MPAA are the poster children for the bury-your-head-in-the-sand mentality. These industry-specific groups have more than enough money to shape the kind of technological advances that would maintain their dominance in the world market. But they choose instead to spend their money on lobbying. Their old business models have become leaky dikes, now they try to plug them by putting an increasing number of legislative &#8220;fingers&#8221; into the holes to stem the inevitable water of progress. Here&#8217;s a great insider&#8217;s look at the issue from a techie who has been involved in implementing DRM and thought about it a lot. One thing I believe &#8211; the DRM wars will continue for the foreseeable future. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tiltededge</title>
		<link>http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2006/01/14/drm-and-pragmatism/comment-page-1/#comment-4719</link>
		<dc:creator>tiltededge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was refering to DRM in software. I&#039;m not sure about music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was refering to DRM in software. I&#8217;m not sure about music.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Seyfang</title>
		<link>http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2006/01/14/drm-and-pragmatism/comment-page-1/#comment-4694</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Seyfang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMEN!

And wait theres more - even in the &#039;exception case&#039; when DRM &#039;works&#039;, the coolness of remix on the readwrite web will usually break.  For example, even a simple username/password (that you have) in an rss feed creates a barrier to the free flow of stuff.

Here is a little post with some of my thoughts inspired by Stephen Downes:
http://spaces.msn.com/members/mikese/Blog/cns!1p6t4igVZ5-R-npCeqnrN2MA!704.entry


Fang - Mike Seyfang - LearnDog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMEN!</p>
<p>And wait theres more &#8211; even in the &#8216;exception case&#8217; when DRM &#8216;works&#8217;, the coolness of remix on the readwrite web will usually break.  For example, even a simple username/password (that you have) in an rss feed creates a barrier to the free flow of stuff.</p>
<p>Here is a little post with some of my thoughts inspired by Stephen Downes:<br />
<a href="http://spaces.msn.com/members/mikese/Blog/cns" rel="nofollow">http://spaces.msn.com/members/mikese/Blog/cns</a>!1p6t4igVZ5-R-npCeqnrN2MA!704.entry</p>
<p>Fang &#8211; Mike Seyfang &#8211; LearnDog</p>
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		<title>By: PJ Cabrera</title>
		<link>http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2006/01/14/drm-and-pragmatism/comment-page-1/#comment-4679</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ Cabrera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tiltededge

DRM decreases piracy? I&#039;d like to know how you arrive at that statement.

DVD-CSS was supposed to make it impossible for me to copy a DVD and play the copy. It is DRM. It is total crap.

The XBOX 360 was supposed to be DRM&#039;ed to the nines, as was the original XBOX supposed to be protected as well. The 360 was cracked a month after it came out to store shelves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tiltededge</p>
<p>DRM decreases piracy? I&#8217;d like to know how you arrive at that statement.</p>
<p>DVD-CSS was supposed to make it impossible for me to copy a DVD and play the copy. It is DRM. It is total crap.</p>
<p>The XBOX 360 was supposed to be DRM&#8217;ed to the nines, as was the original XBOX supposed to be protected as well. The 360 was cracked a month after it came out to store shelves.</p>
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		<title>By: hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tiltededge said: The bottom line is that we are moving away from ownership.

I&#039;ve thought about this at some length. First of all, &quot;we&quot; aren&#039;t doing anything. Giant international companies are attempting to eliminate personally owned copies. Their wet dream is to get money every time you hear a song, to be paid for every sitcom you watch. They also want you to pay for the player with the coinslot and the bandwidth it requires.

I am definitely not moving away from ownership. I just bought a big honkin&#039; disk to hold all the stuff I&#039;ve gotten from eMusic or downloaded from the likes of the old MP3.com, Epitonic, Amazon, Kill Rock Stars, etc. 

People like to collect things. People who like shot glasses have shelves full of shot glasses. People who like music have shelves full of albums, or servers full of disk drives, depending on their storage preferences. People collect things because they perceive value in them. It&#039;s in our nature to preserve what we consider valuable. Those who are particularly well off build libraries and museums.

I don&#039;t need to connect to a license server to play my Moody Blues albums wherever and on whatever equipment I wish. I don&#039;t need to be online to load the albums I bought from eMusic onto my iRiver. I don&#039;t need to wonder if Napster to Go or Rhapsody will still have the albums I like a year from now (a truely hypothetical argument since they don&#039;t have most of the albums I like now anyway). I won&#039;t have to choose between being able to play the Helldorado album I got last month and buying a better laptop next year. The idea of subscribing to a vast library is appealing. The fact that the contents of the library, and my access to it, is at the whim of a soulless corporation is not.
 
(btw, There&#039;s a free trial link for eMusic on my site if you&#039;d like to check it out. I wouldn&#039;t want anybody to boycott Dave because I posted a commercial link.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tiltededge said: The bottom line is that we are moving away from ownership.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve thought about this at some length. First of all, &#8220;we&#8221; aren&#8217;t doing anything. Giant international companies are attempting to eliminate personally owned copies. Their wet dream is to get money every time you hear a song, to be paid for every sitcom you watch. They also want you to pay for the player with the coinslot and the bandwidth it requires.</p>
<p>I am definitely not moving away from ownership. I just bought a big honkin&#8217; disk to hold all the stuff I&#8217;ve gotten from eMusic or downloaded from the likes of the old MP3.com, Epitonic, Amazon, Kill Rock Stars, etc. </p>
<p>People like to collect things. People who like shot glasses have shelves full of shot glasses. People who like music have shelves full of albums, or servers full of disk drives, depending on their storage preferences. People collect things because they perceive value in them. It&#8217;s in our nature to preserve what we consider valuable. Those who are particularly well off build libraries and museums.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t need to connect to a license server to play my Moody Blues albums wherever and on whatever equipment I wish. I don&#8217;t need to be online to load the albums I bought from eMusic onto my iRiver. I don&#8217;t need to wonder if Napster to Go or Rhapsody will still have the albums I like a year from now (a truely hypothetical argument since they don&#8217;t have most of the albums I like now anyway). I won&#8217;t have to choose between being able to play the Helldorado album I got last month and buying a better laptop next year. The idea of subscribing to a vast library is appealing. The fact that the contents of the library, and my access to it, is at the whim of a soulless corporation is not.</p>
<p>(btw, There&#8217;s a free trial link for eMusic on my site if you&#8217;d like to check it out. I wouldn&#8217;t want anybody to boycott Dave because I posted a commercial link.)</p>
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		<title>By: Podiobooker &#187; Blog Archive &#187; DRM - Evil or Genius?</title>
		<link>http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2006/01/14/drm-and-pragmatism/comment-page-1/#comment-4661</link>
		<dc:creator>Podiobooker &#187; Blog Archive &#187; DRM - Evil or Genius?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Highly recommended reading report. Dave Slusher of the Evil Genius Chronicles has a very insightful post on issues surrounding DRM, Digital Rights Management. For those unfamiliar, the promise of DRM for publishers is prohibiting illegal use of their digital files. CDs, ebooks, audio books&#8230; DRM is everywhere. It may seem logical on the surface, but Dave digs a little deeper&#8230; Be it an ebook from Gemstar, a song from iTunes, a movie from whatever service or any digital good with DRM, it will almost certainly work at the moment you purchased it. The hardware you have matches that expected, your OS runs the program that enforces the rights, any servers necessary to verify credentials are up and running. It will work at that instant, and it will almost certainly work tomorrow and will probably work in six months. Will it work in a year? Maybe, maybe not. Will it work in ten years? Almost certainly not. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Highly recommended reading report. Dave Slusher of the Evil Genius Chronicles has a very insightful post on issues surrounding DRM, Digital Rights Management. For those unfamiliar, the promise of DRM for publishers is prohibiting illegal use of their digital files. CDs, ebooks, audio books&#8230; DRM is everywhere. It may seem logical on the surface, but Dave digs a little deeper&#8230; Be it an ebook from Gemstar, a song from iTunes, a movie from whatever service or any digital good with DRM, it will almost certainly work at the moment you purchased it. The hardware you have matches that expected, your OS runs the program that enforces the rights, any servers necessary to verify credentials are up and running. It will work at that instant, and it will almost certainly work tomorrow and will probably work in six months. Will it work in a year? Maybe, maybe not. Will it work in ten years? Almost certainly not. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tiltededge</title>
		<link>http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2006/01/14/drm-and-pragmatism/comment-page-1/#comment-4645</link>
		<dc:creator>tiltededge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bottom line is that we are moving away from ownership. This is a trend that started in software and has migrated to digital music and video. I have software with DRM which I can&#039;t use unless I &quot;Authorize&quot; it at the mothership. While it decreases piracy, it will do nothing to build company loyalty. I love the software but hate the company. It leaves an opening for grass roots software to spring up quickly in the future. The same could be said for music and other entertainment. Millions of people are paying more than $600 a year for tv yet they are still bombarded with ads and programming which is 99% crap. What kind of value is this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bottom line is that we are moving away from ownership. This is a trend that started in software and has migrated to digital music and video. I have software with DRM which I can&#8217;t use unless I &#8220;Authorize&#8221; it at the mothership. While it decreases piracy, it will do nothing to build company loyalty. I love the software but hate the company. It leaves an opening for grass roots software to spring up quickly in the future. The same could be said for music and other entertainment. Millions of people are paying more than $600 a year for tv yet they are still bombarded with ads and programming which is 99% crap. What kind of value is this?</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2006 04:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a siren song with ITMS though; its convenience, seamless integration, etc. And I do like the &quot;Just for You&quot; part of the store.

Maybe this will motivate me to get all the stuff I&#039;ve gotten from ITMS transferred into a more universal format, while I still can.

-k-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a siren song with ITMS though; its convenience, seamless integration, etc. And I do like the &#8220;Just for You&#8221; part of the store.</p>
<p>Maybe this will motivate me to get all the stuff I&#8217;ve gotten from ITMS transferred into a more universal format, while I still can.</p>
<p>-k-</p>
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		<title>By: Brooklyn Bluesman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brooklyn Bluesman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweet, Brother D. I&#039;ll read this in my next FreeCulture News. Appreciate the enlightened info on this volatile topic. Another good day for the &quot;home team!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet, Brother D. I&#8217;ll read this in my next FreeCulture News. Appreciate the enlightened info on this volatile topic. Another good day for the &#8220;home team!&#8221;</p>
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