Comments on: Hollywood Brainwashes them Young http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2006/10/22/hollywood-brainwashes-them-young/ A journal of geekery, music and joy Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:59:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: David Jacobs http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2006/10/22/hollywood-brainwashes-them-young/comment-page-1/#comment-20934 David Jacobs Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:17:07 +0000 http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2006/10/22/hollywood-brainwashes-them-young/#comment-20934 Mama don't let your kids grow up to be pirates, unless they're buying Jack Sparrow gear. Mama don’t let your kids grow up to be pirates, unless they’re buying Jack Sparrow gear.

]]> By: The Boy Scouts and the RIAA « Connected World http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2006/10/22/hollywood-brainwashes-them-young/comment-page-1/#comment-20933 The Boy Scouts and the RIAA « Connected World Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:10:34 +0000 http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2006/10/22/hollywood-brainwashes-them-young/#comment-20933 [...] Another great and insightful post from Dave Slusher. The battle for the next generation of Internet users is on. What are we going to call these guys, the YouTube/Google generation? The GooTube generation? [...] [...] Another great and insightful post from Dave Slusher. The battle for the next generation of Internet users is on. What are we going to call these guys, the YouTube/Google generation? The GooTube generation? [...]

]]> By: Ken Nelson http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2006/10/22/hollywood-brainwashes-them-young/comment-page-1/#comment-20732 Ken Nelson Sun, 22 Oct 2006 23:59:51 +0000 http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2006/10/22/hollywood-brainwashes-them-young/#comment-20732 The MPAA has a pdf http://mpaa.org/press_releases/respect%20copyrights%20curriculum%20and%20patch.pdf There is a merit-badge-like drawing at the end of the document. Kansas now has Dan Glickman to live down, it appears. -k- The MPAA has a pdf http://mpaa.org/press_releases/respect%20copyrights%20curriculum%20and%20patch.pdf

There is a merit-badge-like drawing at the end of the document.

Kansas now has Dan Glickman to live down, it appears.

-k-

]]> By: Eldon http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2006/10/22/hollywood-brainwashes-them-young/comment-page-1/#comment-20713 Eldon Sun, 22 Oct 2006 22:06:19 +0000 http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2006/10/22/hollywood-brainwashes-them-young/#comment-20713 This is the third or fourth place I've heard of this (it already having been posted on slashdot and bb), and I've been frustrated a lot with the discussion on it. I would like to make just a few point to someone, and I guess you won. Disclaimer: I have yet to find the badge requirements online, so my opinion on this is pending confirmation of certain suspicions. The first thing I would like to say is that, from reading the opinions of many people online, they judge a large group of people based on the actions of a few individuals. While some members of scouting may be homophobic or intolerant, that does not mean that these ideals are universally accepted. It would seem to me that this would be analogous to saying that all Christians are evil because the says/believes something disagreeable. We at my troup would certainly have been tolerant gay members as long as their actions were appropriate, I think. The fact here is that most troups are largely autonomous in their decisionmaking, and the larger organizations exist mostly as support structures for the local ones. The second thing I would say is that it is clearly a fact that copyright infringement is illegal. And a big part of scouting is following the rules to the best of one's ability, and attempting to change inappropriate rules from within the societally-accepted system. Examples of this change include copyleft/creative commons, and I think it would be great if we could develop this patch. While I don't have time right now, it may be something on the slate in the near future. However, I think that noone should be subject to the scathing statements I've seen directed towards the scouts for trying to get people to follow the rules of a government that we implicitly support every time we pay sales tax, use our drivers license, or vote. All of this has nothing to do with the MPAA in principal, it is simply the case that they are willing to make donations to help the scouts to fulfill their mission to produce law-abiding citizens. Corporate sponsorship for such nonprofit endeavors is not all that uncommon. Yes, the RIAA and MPAA may be evil. Yes, the system may need change. And yes, the people who are hurt the most by copyright infringement are the rich. However, that change can best be affected by individuals who are 1) old enough to vote(most scouts aren't) to change bizarre policies and who are 2) in a position to control spending and educate the next generation. The punchline is, anyone advocating something legal and fun can probably get a patch made about it. So, rather than complaining that scouts are corporate shills, let's use to pros of cc (remixing, distribution, etc.) to make scouting the biggest creative-commons advocacy group out there. This is the third or fourth place I’ve heard of this (it already having been posted on slashdot and bb), and I’ve been frustrated a lot with the discussion on it. I would like to make just a few point to someone, and I guess you won.
Disclaimer: I have yet to find the badge requirements online, so my opinion on this is pending confirmation of certain suspicions.
The first thing I would like to say is that, from reading the opinions of many people online, they judge a large group of people based on the actions of a few individuals. While some members of scouting may be homophobic or intolerant, that does not mean that these ideals are universally accepted. It would seem to me that this would be analogous to saying that all Christians are evil because the says/believes something disagreeable. We at my troup would certainly have been tolerant gay members as long as their actions were appropriate, I think. The fact here is that most troups are largely autonomous in their decisionmaking, and the larger organizations exist mostly as support structures for the local ones.
The second thing I would say is that it is clearly a fact that copyright infringement is illegal. And a big part of scouting is following the rules to the best of one’s ability, and attempting to change inappropriate rules from within the societally-accepted system. Examples of this change include copyleft/creative commons, and I think it would be great if we could develop this patch. While I don’t have time right now, it may be something on the slate in the near future. However, I think that noone should be subject to the scathing statements I’ve seen directed towards the scouts for trying to get people to follow the rules of a government that we implicitly support every time we pay sales tax, use our drivers license, or vote. All of this has nothing to do with the MPAA in principal, it is simply the case that they are willing to make donations to help the scouts to fulfill their mission to produce law-abiding citizens. Corporate sponsorship for such nonprofit endeavors is not all that uncommon. Yes, the RIAA and MPAA may be evil. Yes, the system may need change. And yes, the people who are hurt the most by copyright infringement are the rich. However, that change can best be affected by individuals who are 1) old enough to vote(most scouts aren’t) to change bizarre policies and who are 2) in a position to control spending and educate the next generation. The punchline is, anyone advocating something legal and fun can probably get a patch made about it. So, rather than complaining that scouts are corporate shills, let’s use to pros of cc (remixing, distribution, etc.) to make scouting the biggest creative-commons advocacy group out there.

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