Comments on: Sgt. Pepper Must Die http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/03/sgt-pepper-must-die/ A journal of geekery, music and joy Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:00:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Rev. Dan http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/03/sgt-pepper-must-die/comment-page-1/#comment-93288 Rev. Dan Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:03:03 +0000 http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/03/sgt-pepper-must-die/#comment-93288 I'm in the "Revolver and Rubber Soul are Bomb-diggity" camp, and while I listened to the Beatles with religious fervor in Junior High/High School (in the 80's, mind you) and I still have all their albums I haven't listened to them in ages. I have to say that this quote from the article is hovering right around perfection: "Rock'n'roll is meant to be full of vitality and energy, and this album isn't. It sounds like it took six months to shit out ... it was ideal for a seven-year-old." Lovely Rita is one of a handful of songs which contain lyrics that float up out of my subconscious to say hello periodically. (Almost as frequently as the lyric "If you say something once, why say it again?" from the Talking Heads.) While the Beatles are definitely guilty of creating some of the most maudlin "love songs" of all time I've always appreciated that they wrote songs about dogs, ponies, and meter maids too. I don't know that I can agree that Nevermind was all that great or important of an album. There was so much music around that time that was actually good which was obscured by the grunge nonsense that I actually resent that Nevermind was so seemingly omnipresent. I know several 13-year-old girls who think Cobain was a musical God. I don't know many musicians who agree. Honestly, I think Britney Spears puts out better albums than Nirvana ever did (and the upside is that one can watch her shake her ass in the videos [which, very truthfully, are much better with the sound off]). Dave Grohl was the actual talent in Nirvana, definitely not Cobain. I’m in the “Revolver and Rubber Soul are Bomb-diggity” camp, and while I listened to the Beatles with religious fervor in Junior High/High School (in the 80’s, mind you) and I still have all their albums I haven’t listened to them in ages.

I have to say that this quote from the article is hovering right around perfection:

“Rock’n'roll is meant to be full of vitality and energy, and this album isn’t. It sounds like it took six months to shit out … it was ideal for a seven-year-old.”

Lovely Rita is one of a handful of songs which contain lyrics that float up out of my subconscious to say hello periodically. (Almost as frequently as the lyric “If you say something once, why say it again?” from the Talking Heads.)

While the Beatles are definitely guilty of creating some of the most maudlin “love songs” of all time I’ve always appreciated that they wrote songs about dogs, ponies, and meter maids too.

I don’t know that I can agree that Nevermind was all that great or important of an album. There was so much music around that time that was actually good which was obscured by the grunge nonsense that I actually resent that Nevermind was so seemingly omnipresent.

I know several 13-year-old girls who think Cobain was a musical God. I don’t know many musicians who agree. Honestly, I think Britney Spears puts out better albums than Nirvana ever did (and the upside is that one can watch her shake her ass in the videos [which, very truthfully, are much better with the sound off]). Dave Grohl was the actual talent in Nirvana, definitely not Cobain.

]]> By: dave http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/03/sgt-pepper-must-die/comment-page-1/#comment-93053 dave Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:37:22 +0000 http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/03/sgt-pepper-must-die/#comment-93053 Songs I don't care if I ever hear again in my life: "Fixing a Hole", "She's Leaving Home", "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite!", "Within You Without You" , "When I'm Sixty-Four". That's half the album. I've hit the point where "A Day in the Life" just sounds arch and artificial to me. The songs that still stand up for me today are "Lovely Rita", "Good Morning" and "Getting Better." Songs I don’t care if I ever hear again in my life: “Fixing a Hole”, “She’s Leaving Home”, “Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite!”, “Within You Without You” , “When I’m Sixty-Four”. That’s half the album.

I’ve hit the point where “A Day in the Life” just sounds arch and artificial to me. The songs that still stand up for me today are “Lovely Rita”, “Good Morning” and “Getting Better.”

]]> By: bruce http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/03/sgt-pepper-must-die/comment-page-1/#comment-92999 bruce Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:17:25 +0000 http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/03/sgt-pepper-must-die/#comment-92999 aye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! aye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: bruce http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/03/sgt-pepper-must-die/comment-page-1/#comment-92421 bruce Sat, 14 Feb 2009 07:47:50 +0000 http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/03/sgt-pepper-must-die/#comment-92421 you cant say that some of sgt pepper songs are "filler and completely throwaway." In that case, i'm sure that any album considered as a great piece of art contains at least one "filler song" Youre just saying these things cause sgt pepper is considered a "concept album", which should have a meaning or something. Every beatles album is great as F&%/CK..... but the greatest of all? every single one since Rubber Soul. that is.... - rubber soul - revolver - magical mystery tour - sgt pepper - white album - abbey road Now..... those are and will be the most influential albums of all times ever..... greatest band of all time...... you cant say that some of sgt pepper songs are “filler and completely throwaway.”

In that case, i’m sure that any album considered as a great piece of art contains at least one “filler song”
Youre just saying these things cause sgt pepper is considered a “concept album”, which should have a meaning or something.

Every beatles album is great as F&%/CK….. but the greatest of all? every single one since Rubber Soul.
that is….
- rubber soul
- revolver
- magical mystery tour
- sgt pepper
- white album
- abbey road

Now….. those are and will be the most influential albums of all times ever….. greatest band of all time……

]]> By: Ben http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/03/sgt-pepper-must-die/comment-page-1/#comment-44459 Ben Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:20:43 +0000 http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/03/sgt-pepper-must-die/#comment-44459 What? you guys are totally drunk! how can you hate sgt.pepper? within you without you is one of the coolest songs ever! a day in the life may be their best song this album made the beatles more then a simple brit pop band and casual fans liking the white album? ok, no the white album is the one album that you can listen to and not have every song be a rock radio staple song. that's their best album then abbey road then sgt.pepper What?
you guys are totally drunk!
how can you hate sgt.pepper?
within you without you is one of the coolest songs ever!
a day in the life may be their best song
this album made the beatles more then a simple brit pop band
and casual fans liking the white album?
ok, no
the white album is the one album that you can listen to and not have every song be a rock radio staple song.
that’s their best album
then abbey road
then sgt.pepper

]]> By: Don Schumaker http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/03/sgt-pepper-must-die/comment-page-1/#comment-44374 Don Schumaker Sat, 14 Jul 2007 15:33:06 +0000 http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/03/sgt-pepper-must-die/#comment-44374 I agree with you regarding Sgt Pepper's being overrated. I've owned damn near everything they have recorded in LP and CD form over the years and honestly that album is my least favorite (along with the America only throw away Magical Mystery Tour). To me what many regard as ground breaking on that album, they had already begun doing with Rubber Soul and Sgt. Pepper was the beginning of the long slow decline to the Get Back sessions and the end of it all. I agree with you regarding Sgt Pepper’s being overrated. I’ve owned damn near everything they have recorded in LP and CD form over the years and honestly that album is my least favorite (along with the America only throw away Magical Mystery Tour).

To me what many regard as ground breaking on that album, they had already begun doing with Rubber Soul and Sgt. Pepper was the beginning of the long slow decline to the Get Back sessions and the end of it all.

]]> By: Jon Kincaid http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/03/sgt-pepper-must-die/comment-page-1/#comment-44343 Jon Kincaid Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:12:19 +0000 http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/03/sgt-pepper-must-die/#comment-44343 you're wrong about She's Leaving Home... but the album IS overrated as Paul is underrated (by most critic types) to Saint John..... Revolver is the best, Rubber Soul not far behind. you’re wrong about She’s Leaving Home… but the album IS overrated as Paul is underrated (by most critic types) to Saint John…..
Revolver is the best, Rubber Soul not far behind.

]]> By: The Better Beatles | Garrick Van Buren .com http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/03/sgt-pepper-must-die/comment-page-1/#comment-43943 The Better Beatles | Garrick Van Buren .com Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:17:18 +0000 http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/03/sgt-pepper-must-die/#comment-43943 [...] Discovering and rediscovering each album. As I tried to recall the lyrics to Octopus’s Garden, Jen and I started talking about the best Beatles ablum. I agree with Mr. Slusher, it’s not St. Pepper. [...] [...] Discovering and rediscovering each album. As I tried to recall the lyrics to Octopus’s Garden, Jen and I started talking about the best Beatles ablum. I agree with Mr. Slusher, it’s not St. Pepper. [...]

]]> By: Bryce Moore http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/03/sgt-pepper-must-die/comment-page-1/#comment-43942 Bryce Moore Tue, 03 Jul 2007 14:52:42 +0000 http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/03/sgt-pepper-must-die/#comment-43942 The casual Beatles fans I find tend to gravitate towards "Sgt Pepper's" and "The White Album", but my favorite was always "Revolver" (the original UK version, naturally). To me it represented that turning point between the "safe pop" that was "Help!" and "A Hard Day's Night" (and most of the early British Invasion, for that matter) and the music experiments that would be "Abbey Road" and "The White Album". I've really been digging the new "Love" CD though. The remix work that George and Giles Martin did with the originals was masterful, in my opinion. I only hope that the remixed albums that are due will sound just as good. As much as I like the Beach Boys, I never understood the fascination with Pet Sounds. It always came across as a California-washed attempt at "Rubber Soul". :) The casual Beatles fans I find tend to gravitate towards “Sgt Pepper’s” and “The White Album”, but my favorite was always “Revolver” (the original UK version, naturally). To me it represented that turning point between the “safe pop” that was “Help!” and “A Hard Day’s Night” (and most of the early British Invasion, for that matter) and the music experiments that would be “Abbey Road” and “The White Album”.

I’ve really been digging the new “Love” CD though. The remix work that George and Giles Martin did with the originals was masterful, in my opinion. I only hope that the remixed albums that are due will sound just as good.

As much as I like the Beach Boys, I never understood the fascination with Pet Sounds. It always came across as a California-washed attempt at “Rubber Soul”. :)

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