Comments on: Fallout from Shiny Things and Further Thoughts http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/20/fallout-from-shiny-things-and-further-thoughts/ A journal of geekery, music and joy Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:00:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: A.Connector » Blog Archive » Creaks from the floorboards of the Net http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/20/fallout-from-shiny-things-and-further-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-44581 A.Connector » Blog Archive » Creaks from the floorboards of the Net Sun, 22 Jul 2007 07:36:11 +0000 http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/20/fallout-from-shiny-things-and-further-thoughts/#comment-44581 [...] This week has been a funny one on these lovely “socnets” of the zeitgeist. First one of my favorite podcasters and bloggers:Dave Slusher lashes out at Robert Scoble (an admired source of emerging technology) for being a silly navel gazer fixated on shiny objects and the newest fads (hmm  haven’t been tracking Scoble long but isn’t that what he’s being read by so many for). Another mild quake occurred when Robert Scoble accused Chris Brogan (an admired proponent of social communities on the Net) of using him (well all of us) that joined the Grasshopper’s Facebook group. Chris formed a group on Facebook got a very good a and quick response, only to inform everyone that the group is also moving to Ning which will be the main site but on GoogleGroups too (my head spinning now). This surrounded by chants Facebook rawks/Facebook sucks. [...] [...] This week has been a funny one on these lovely “socnets” of the zeitgeist. First one of my favorite podcasters and bloggers:Dave Slusher lashes out at Robert Scoble (an admired source of emerging technology) for being a silly navel gazer fixated on shiny objects and the newest fads (hmm  haven’t been tracking Scoble long but isn’t that what he’s being read by so many for). Another mild quake occurred when Robert Scoble accused Chris Brogan (an admired proponent of social communities on the Net) of using him (well all of us) that joined the Grasshopper’s Facebook group. Chris formed a group on Facebook got a very good a and quick response, only to inform everyone that the group is also moving to Ning which will be the main site but on GoogleGroups too (my head spinning now). This surrounded by chants Facebook rawks/Facebook sucks. [...]

]]> By: Ken Nelson http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/20/fallout-from-shiny-things-and-further-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-44575 Ken Nelson Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:08:57 +0000 http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/20/fallout-from-shiny-things-and-further-thoughts/#comment-44575 Wherever there's a "next new thing", there will be a dedicated SysAdmin there to provide its care and feeding; to provision its disk, to back up its files, etc,etc. Shabby and poor though my blog may be, I'm glad that I can write more about the provisioning than the hype surrounding the schemes that just don't pan out. Admins are blue-collar, whether serving porn, hype, or soon-forgotten web service "services". They are the first to be cut loose when the VC capital swirls around in the cyber-crapper. They are also the first ones to be gainfully and profitably re-employed with some place that offers such luxuries as a business plan. -k- I'm sure Scoble is a good guy; he does have a nasty habit of getting on my last good nerve. Wherever there’s a “next new thing”, there will be a dedicated SysAdmin there to provide its care and feeding; to provision its disk, to back up its files, etc,etc.

Shabby and poor though my blog may be, I’m glad that I can write more about the provisioning than the hype surrounding the schemes that just don’t pan out.

Admins are blue-collar, whether serving porn, hype, or soon-forgotten web service “services”. They are the first to be cut loose when the VC capital swirls around in the cyber-crapper. They are also the first ones to be gainfully and profitably re-employed with some place that offers such luxuries as a business plan.

-k-
I’m sure Scoble is a good guy; he does have a nasty habit of getting on my last good nerve.

]]> By: Robert Scoble http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/20/fallout-from-shiny-things-and-further-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-44571 Robert Scoble Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:33:14 +0000 http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/20/fallout-from-shiny-things-and-further-thoughts/#comment-44571 Funny, a next-door neighbor friend from 33 years ago just found me on Facebook and turns out she works for Oracle. Your post actually was interesting to me. I +am+ a professional shiny thing watcher. That's what I do. I look for what's coming next. Facebook lit up all my networks at one time, which is pretty rare. VCs are pouring lots of resources into Facebook because of its application platform (if you think it's just a social network you'll miss what's really powerful there). All of Facebook's competitors like LinkedIn now are working on their own application platforms. That, to me, is a good thing. Funny, last night coming home from Seattle there was a lady behind me telling everyone around her "I had computers, I don't own one of those and I don't have a cell phone either." There's lots of people who decide to get off the "keep up with the new" train. I'll be there for those who want to know what's coming next. You might be happier with my link blog, though, because there I just look for the best blogs. I'm still subscribed to you, by the way. Funny, a next-door neighbor friend from 33 years ago just found me on Facebook and turns out she works for Oracle.

Your post actually was interesting to me. I +am+ a professional shiny thing watcher. That’s what I do. I look for what’s coming next. Facebook lit up all my networks at one time, which is pretty rare. VCs are pouring lots of resources into Facebook because of its application platform (if you think it’s just a social network you’ll miss what’s really powerful there). All of Facebook’s competitors like LinkedIn now are working on their own application platforms. That, to me, is a good thing.

Funny, last night coming home from Seattle there was a lady behind me telling everyone around her “I had computers, I don’t own one of those and I don’t have a cell phone either.”

There’s lots of people who decide to get off the “keep up with the new” train. I’ll be there for those who want to know what’s coming next.

You might be happier with my link blog, though, because there I just look for the best blogs. I’m still subscribed to you, by the way.

]]> By: mike dunn http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/20/fallout-from-shiny-things-and-further-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-44559 mike dunn Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:02:23 +0000 http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2007/07/20/fallout-from-shiny-things-and-further-thoughts/#comment-44559 good points on http://amigofish.com dave, it is an easy tool to get info into and out of - which points to the problem i've seen w/ a ton of sns plays, most (not all) are walled gardens that can't be linked to from outside or exported so you can take your grouplings elsewhere - thus you live in them and have to put a lot of work into them to make them work at scale (if thats what you want) then start all over when you want to try something new... jeremy was saying something very similar in his post, and he interestingly enough works directly w/ robert... maybe something smart will come of all this, the http://www.profilelinker.com/ that he mentioned looks promising - guess i'll go check out that now, its very shiney ;) good points on http://amigofish.com dave, it is an easy tool to get info into and out of – which points to the problem i’ve seen w/ a ton of sns plays, most (not all) are walled gardens that can’t be linked to from outside or exported so you can take your grouplings elsewhere – thus you live in them and have to put a lot of work into them to make them work at scale (if thats what you want) then start all over when you want to try something new…

jeremy was saying something very similar in his post, and he interestingly enough works directly w/ robert…

maybe something smart will come of all this, the http://www.profilelinker.com/ that he mentioned looks promising – guess i’ll go check out that now, its very shiney ;)

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